Do you see this face? This face was asking for money and financial help less than two months ago from me. I did not help him and he has since had to move from Washington State to Texas. Apparently his welfare was cut off in our state, but there was more welfare to be gotten in Texas. It should be noted that this is a man who used to make angry rant videos about how everyone needs to quit their job (which I am on board with and have done myself) but at the same time, he wants to collect checks from the Government.... Obviously, the man suffers from a major disconnect. How does the government pay welfare recipients? Yes, with money derived from collecting taxes on working people.
Anyhow, since making the move between states, he has become obsessed with the flat earth theory and now puts out several videos a day, scribbling on paper with crayons, mocking people who do not believe in the flat earth. Because he has not been able to persuade me with his crayon and paper based theories that the earth is flat (I even admit that it could be flat but I do not have enough evidence to assert it is), that he says even a kindergartner can understand, he has now resorted to calling me a "faggot", a "jew" and accuses me of being a liberal supporter of the Democrats.... these are his attacks on me. The commonality between his attacks on me and the flat earth theory, are that there are no support for either.
The reason I make this post is because he is the second person that I am aware of who has had this outcome with me. Two men, who found my channel, both started their own video channels, even telling me that they did it because they were inspired by my work. Both of them ended up getting sucked in by "the flat earth theory" and neither of them could persuade me to take interest in it. With regards to both men, they ended up calling me names and attacking me. ALL BECAUSE I SAID I'M NOT PERSUADED BY THE ARGUMENTS OF THE FLAT EARTH.
What I am seeing about the flat earth theory, is it makes people obsess, and they forget about everything else, and they want everyone to agree that the earth is flat or they don't want to have communications with them. To me, the flat earth theory is dangerous in this regard. It seems to have a very powerful impact on people. Granted, both men, once they started talking flat earth, saw their subscribership increase by more than 1000%. In this regard, it makes me wonder if people are enjoying the flat earth theory for the community it brings them? If so, this is understandable. I get that people are lonely.
Just know that I am not someone who cares bout subscribership, or being popular. I care about the truth and helping people see it. The flat earth theory is not the ticket as far as I can tell. It is based in belief, not science or proof. If you want to prove the earth is flat, find the edge. To date, the edge of the earth has never been reported by anyone. Until it is, I will remain a skeptic. There are real issues that are more pressing, like helping people see the information they are bombarded with on a daily basis is a detriment to their life. This is real, this is why I focus on the things I do, and not the flat earth.
If someone reads this who is convinced the earth is flat, please do not direct me to Eric Dubay or Mark Seargent. I have watched their videos and I wish I could have the time back. Who honestly thinks "rare celestial bodies in the night sky" are a better explanation for lunar eclipses than the shadow of the earth on the moon when the alignment is right? I mean... it could be... but where do these rare celestial bodies come from? Flat earth theory has a lot of explaining to do, and a lot to prove, before anyone becomes so convinced that the earth is factually flat.
I like Russianvids theory on the flat earth and on who to take serious and who not to. Anyone who asks for money is a big Red flag.. Far as using the courts to win against these masons who run it.. Seems a waste of time.. And to costly for most.. We need to do it the old fashion way.. And kick some ass..!!!! Just my thoughts ...
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DeleteOn your channel you're writing that I am a faggot, a Jew and a liberal because I am questioning your arguments that the earth is flat. They're all false accusations, but it should be said that the only reason there is welfare and social security for worthless pieces of shit like you is because of the liberals you dumb fucking white trash stereotype. You were asking for money loser, admit it. Bums like you are always looking for free handouts. That is why you're in Texas now, because that is where the handouts were. You're also mocking what I teach... when you know damn well that what I teach is sound... unlike "flat earth theory" which is based on swiss cheese arguments. I mean, how dumb can a guy like you be to mock someone who said the World Series would feature the Mets during Spring Training? You're just another sad sack of an individual, and it shows. Cry some more, you're the only kindergartner I see.
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DeleteThe flat earthers showed up because of crrow777 and his moon videos IMO
ReplyDeleteHe doesn't support them either. The earth is not flat and anyone who flies a small airplane can vouch for that. Ridiculous! .
I like crow even though I don't agree with much of what he says. He has given me more recognition than any other big channel.
DeleteI forgot .. Crow777 bought attention to the Hatybov story. I have to admit I'm totally addicted to the Hatybov papers.
ReplyDeletehttp://sagesigma.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-hatybov-enigma-readers-guide.html
Anyway first crows lunar wave tapes and them Hatybow and somebody sent in hoards of flat earthers. That's my opinion what's happening.
BTW I'm starting a blog. I promise I won't start thinking the earth is flat. lol
Flat earth theory just doesn't make logical sense. Some of the points are very well made but overall I would have to say it has many holes in it.
ReplyDeleteYes, it is Swiss Cheese. This guy that I called out, I was being nice to him and saying he shouldn't be going full board on this theory. His tone in his videos is that people are losers if they can't see the earth is flat... not a good look. I had the best intentions, in return he called me a faggot, jew and liberal... I'm still laughing about the liberal.
DeleteYes I am familiar with the individual. I got sick of his negative attitude and stopped watching his videos awhile ago. And to call you a liberal is just hogwash. haha talk about misguided
DeleteZack, why do you give a FUCK what other people say? The truth doesn't need verification, stands alone!!
ReplyDeleteTearing down this flat earth bullshit does have to do with truth. It makes people crazy as far as I can tell.
DeleteZach to be fair, you've gotten a little steamed up in several videos & posts & given generalized insults to people that don't see what you're talking about.
ReplyDeleteIt's understandable the frustrations, & I'm not saying you don't have solid evidence you've shared to support most of what you assert, but you know how much bullshit most people have to sift out of their minds & attentions in order to see these things for what they are.
Appealing to the commonalities between people who are "with you" & the general public is the key to having people listen to you, because relatively few of the population are willing to continue listening if they feel like the person with the information looks down on them.
I'm only pointing it out because it can lead to just preaching to the choir instead of getting a message across to "nonbelievers", you know?
And communicating effectively is most important when coming from so far outside someone's realm of consideration.
Can you give an example of where I did this? I call out the trolls who post bullshit in my videos and the masses of people who don't acknowledge truth. I don't remember ever steaming on people who don't know what I'm talking about. This flat earth theory seems to create a real psychosis for certain people.
DeleteYeah I guess I was talking about the people who don't acknowledge truth.
DeleteI guess I just mean they're not gonna be "won over" (though I know that's not your goal as much as just getting the info out there) by that sort of thing & if they talk about it in the future they'll have a more negative view of the ideas than if they just don't believe you.
Cause from their perspective they haven't seen Enough to change their view, you know? With such established & all encompassing lies & indoctrination, a lot of people need a lot of convincing to break the bubble.
I know I'm used to being seen as naïve & delusional when I talk about things I know, or even things I hold to be likely from what I've seen.
Like this Bernie Sanderchrist shit. So many friends & people around me think he's a superhero, & I just sound like negativity to them when I say don't believe in him & explain why.
But I can't deride them for not listening.
Their heads are filled with lies, but derision from someone who knows better is just gonna make them hold tighter to the facade.
Because the truth hurts enough without additional insult.
The Truth hurts only because the lies are so cushy & comfy.
But I know you ain't about to give up, & I'm glad you keep doing what you're doing man.
Sorry if I say a lot of nothing, got a lot on my plate & my head's in a fog.
I always appreciate your words Rup, I think you are on point. And yes, I know exactly what you mean with the Bernie
DeleteSamders crowd, I have been upsetting a lot of Bernie fans myself by speaking about the truth of the matter. Thanks for speaking your mind.
When I go to the ocean and look at the horizon I have always been able to see the slight curve. Other people look at the ocean horizon and think it is a straight line. Even if I tilt my head the curve is still there. I used to be able to draw and carve with the best and I trust my eyes. Flat earth is silly.
ReplyDeleteChanging subjects, I wanted to let you know that today is the 32 year anniversary of the Beirut Barracks Bombing of October 23, 1983.
Good heads up, and I appreciate your sharing that.
ReplyDelete10/23/83 = 10+23+83 = 116
The 116th day on 13 Moon Calendar 5/4...Obama is 54 so who knows.
DeleteNovember 18th (322nd day w/43 remaining) is the 5/4 date on the 13 Moon Calendar.
DeleteFlat earth isn't about flat earth. It's about indoctrination so hard that you simply ignore what your eyes are telling you and see what you expect to see. My right-brain, my artistic side, catches it. And it goes wha... whaaaat the hell? While the left side tries to make it not see things as they are. Perspective is easily denied until you look with new eyes. It's like looking at one of those images where you can see two different images if one shifts their focus.
ReplyDelete"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes." - Marcel Proust
Thank you Pete, I agree much.
DeleteI try to not 'believe' in too much because that never seems to work out very well. As most of us know, it's difficult to fully trust anyone in this world, often including ourselves. However, the greater internet 'truther' demographic is so rife with division, it's become difficult to navigate. This could be natural or by design. After all, the internet was provided to the world by the very forces we are apparently up against. It's kind of sick that we use it at all.
ReplyDeleteAt a time when we have more connectivity than ever (??) it seems that it's never been more difficult to work across narrow interest groups. If somebody disagrees or isn't sold 100% they're often instantly castigated as a troll, shill, etc.. I constantly have to check myself on this. As calm as we try to be, we're naturally a pretty high strung bunch of very different people because, through various lenses, we've seen that society is not the Matrix; but a shit-filled sewer.
What I can say on this topic is that I would not be a bit surprised to find out that we are being lied to about the shape of the earth and nature of the universe. To our knowledge and even if everything is shaped as mainstream science claims, nobody really knows where we are or what we are; the true nature of reality will probably always elude us and maybe that's okay. Maybe it's the simple pursuit of this ultimate truth that makes life worth living. I don't know. (Maybe that's what the Mystery Religon hides.)
If I understand the post, you're basically upset with people being assholes about their beliefs. Like with me complaining about that crrow guy. I may groan some suspicions, but that doesn't change the fact that I was intrigued by his videos. None of my negative inklings changed the fact that I stared at the moon with binoculars the first full moon after I saw his channel. I may not be 100% sold by his presentation and claim, but that does not discredit the overall idea and I'd never call him a silly jewish faggot for presenting it.
Hell, I still watch the occasional Jones video. I talk a fair amont of shit about him, but every once in a while, something profound or hilarious will come out of his mouth.
Two things the flat earthers do have going for them, from the average political 'truther' perspective is that NASA does seem to be 99-100% full of shit and that the Antarctic treaties make no realistic sense.
Another possibility is that this is a simple NWO headfake to solidify that They hold the keys to our collective knowledge and They will determine who believes what, when.
> Lead a flat earth movement as controlled opposition.
> Let it grow, then very publicly destroy it.
> Rejoice as the intellectual stranglehold is reasserted.
This could be the case whether it was flat or not. The strategy would still work the same.
I grew up watching Star Trek and I have to admit that when I actually took some time to read some of this flat earth stuff, in a way, it was sort of relieving to hear as a possibility. Maybe that's stupid, but I won't deny it.
I know from personal experience that Star Trek (and sci-fi in general) instills a belief system that is very much the mainstream manifestation of the new age, one-world religion that we do know is coming fast down the pike. Most 'atheists' and 'scientists' today are unwitting adherents of this new age religion and that is arguably more dangerous than the current state of this neo flat earth movement. That is probably why Futurama jokes about the Church of Star Trek.
Most of us have gone through the experience of being called 'crazy' or 'silly' by strangers and sadly, by loved ones, because of some 'conspiracy theory' that we 'knew' to be 'true' .. I know I've been wrong about a lot and I've even obsessed about a few things, but the people who got me to think differently never called me faggot, jew, retard, crazy, silly.. not seriously anyway. ;)
DeleteBottom line: it's best to simply say you're not convinced, but to maintain a courteous honesty about it, until given a reason to do otherwise. If someone is totally dismissive because you are not wholly convinced, it's because they demand your conformity, in which case they probably deserve to be ridiculed and/or ignored.
The flat earthers are absolutely controlled op and they showed up cuz somebody important is upset about crrow's lunar wave videos. Now they're attacking everyone.
DeleteGreat response, I identify with just about everything you wrote. However, I don't watch any InfoWars because I don't want to give them a drop of ratings. =)
DeleteThe flat Earth people do not believe the Earth is flat! That's not what they're doing. They were sent in by the "powers that be" to cause havoc, infighting, chaos and discredit the truth community, especially on youtube. They showed up out of nowhere and started swarming around Crow777 and his lunar wave videos. Somebody high up wants the backyard telescope crowd to go away. These so called flat earth believers have done nothing but cause havoc. Why are they commenting on Zack's videos anyway? Decoding has nothing to do with the earth's shape? Nothing, but here they are anyway! If youtube can't shut down your videos they send in swarms of agents to change the subject, muddy the waters and start fights everywhere. The flat earthers are about as real as black lives matter. They started by attacking crow and now they're attacking everyone even if their subject is a million miles away from their theory. They're totally fake , some kind of counter intel op, it's hard to tell who they're working for. It could be Google. The best thing to do is ignore them, which people have started to do and they're fading away. I'm posting one of crrow's latest video where he explains why he's moving off google/youtube cause it's just too much bullshit.
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This is what we're all going to end up doing because google isn't going to stop fucking with everybody. I uninstalled chrome just last night on my other computer cause I'm just sick of their BS. This isn't about whether the earth is flat or not. It's just more harassment from people who want to control the narrative. IMO
Zack, the work you are doing is impressive. Im a daily follower. Im also directing people to your site and vids.
ReplyDeleteWhat are your thoughts on the #s NASA provides though. Sun 93 million miles away...axis of earth 66.6 degrees...
I get being upset at bozos..but they were bozos before questioning the earth. We need to question earth just like we question everything else.
The media are constantly pushing the globe in our faces, and NASAs in overdrive mode with ridiculous stories and fake pics and footage. Every news story from NASA are ripe with numbers yet you barely cover those stories?? Everyone that stepped foot on the moon were freemasons, obviously we are being decieved about space, no??
I dont believe in any model...and ya flat earth has holes. I see more holes in the globe model though. A shadow on the moon is the best evidence in 2015 of a globe...and thats not enough for me to ignore my senses.
Keep rocking Zack, i appreciate your work!! Would love to see a video breakdown of NASA, the moon landings, and the freemason astronauts. Peace
I do have some older videos on NASA showing how everything
DeleteAbout the space program has been by the numbers since the beginning. I agree that NASA lies and everything should be questioned, I just don't agree that because NASA lies, that means the earth is flat by default. The reason they say the sun is 93 million miles away appears to have to do something with this age old numerology study, where 93 and 54 are often paired together. Sun = 54
I can dig deeper on NASA and should, but if you have never seen the posts and videos I have done, please check them out.
NASA wasn't who told us the Earth was round. We found that out traveling the seas 500 years ago way before NASA even existed. We know the earth is round because nobody's ever fell off a cliff while sailing it basically. All that other stuff is being debated cause the numbers aren't right. Especially the measurements of the sun, moon and other moons in the solar system. It looks like they're artificial constructs. All that's legitimate debate. The electric universe people and all kinds of others are questioning everything. But the shape of the Earth isn't in question. Just by the flat earthers who are government agents. IMO
DeleteZack, I think it's ironic that you bash the Zionists and such, yet can't keep an open mind about Flat Earthers. I believe the earth is flat, and just because NASA says its round could be a lie...Agree? We have been lied to about Politics, Religions Races of people why would you think they wouldn't lie about this. Just my thoughts, DONT BLOCK ME BRO!!
ReplyDeleteI can't keep an open mind? That is not a fair statement. I have said I do not know the shape of the earth and I welcome the debate. I just don't like how the flat earth gang asserts that they know the earth is flat.... they certainly don't know this as much as they tell themselves they do.
DeleteAwesome man...ill look further
ReplyDeleteFlat earther = we are conditioned to mock, laugh and dismiss this term. Instant negitivity.
Something is off though, and everyone reading this deep down knows this.
Thats why its not going away, and everyones driving each other crazy.. there is something to this.
Aight ive said enough haha
You've said a lot, I appreciate it, thank you.
DeleteSo he moved to Texas did he? Well that's interesting cause one of the other guys that filmed the lunar wave just happens to live in Houston.
ReplyDeleteHOUSTONSKYWATCH.COM http://www.houstonskywatch.com/
Yes, and he was trying to hang out with me a lot while he was up here, but I turned him down every time because something didn't ever seem quite right about him. I know now I made the right decision.
DeleteHe's doesn't seem quite right cause he's a government agent. imo
DeleteI hope you talk to crow777 about this someday cause they've put him through Hell.
Well Zach, I don't fully agree with everything that Eric Dubay says concerning the flat earth, but I think there is some truth to what he says. In particular with regard to NASA and their lies. I for one have never believed they went to the moon. Just think, it takes a two stage rocket just to get off of the ground. Please explained where they fueled up to get back to earth? Couple that with the videonin which one of their own employees admits that they haven't overcome "the problem" of the Van Allen belt. Too many unanswered questions for me. Lastly, why on earth are their international treaties prohibiting private exploration of Antarctica? Keep an open mind and stop letting assholes get you in a lather with childish name calling. Remember, that's the last resort of a fragile argument.
ReplyDeleteI don't think they went to the moon either. I have well exposed what a gang of liars and world of lies we live in. Still, you can't use those lies to state the earth is flat, which is what the flat earthers are doing. My point is the flat earth argument creates a real psychosis in people that is very apparent.
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ReplyDeleteThis blog is about truth and taking care of problems. And if you're not aware, I've already got several blog posts and three new videos out for your Gematria enjoyment. =)
ReplyDeleteThe shape of the earth makes no difference in a person's life as far as I can tell. My father lived his entire life believing the world was a globe, and I can't think of a single way his life would've been different if the world were flat. Flat earth is a red herring--one I actually hope unveils many eyes. I came across the flat earth idea this past summer. It spun my head around going down that rabbit hole--now--I can only say, I don't know what the shape of the earth is, and I have no respect for our government or NASA. I looked into info surrounding the earth and it's shape for nearly two months before I found a space in my mind for the idea that didn't distress me. Since then I've discovered Gematria and crisis actors... and the world will never be the same--whatever shape it is.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the shape doesn't much matter, which is why everyone harps on about it. What DOES matter, however, and what people should be focusing on, is the heliocentric lie, which was employed to desacralize the cosmos and -- coupled with the Darwinian lie -- make mankind believe life is meaningless. I don't know about your father, but for me those two lies more than any others are what led me to believe in the soul-crushing atheistic nihilistic materialistic dogma for almost two decades. Uncovering those lies (as well as of course the realization that our reality is almost completely fabricated), has most certainly changed my life, helping me to see the sacred all around me.
DeleteMath Powerland is the only source to be trusted regarding flat earth. If it really interests you, check out his work including "This Crazy Notion" pt 1 and 2 . The rest are shills and are dividing the community.
ReplyDeleteI'm not so high on flat earth, doesn't really matter yet.